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Post by ricecutter on Dec 13, 2006 20:40:55 GMT 10
Here is a thought.
Pooling our resources toward entering a member for Targa 2008.
It ain't cheap and requires a dedicated support team.
There has to be a couple of members who have competitive cars and skills.
I'll happily throw in some $$$ and effort.
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Post by Deane on Dec 13, 2006 21:12:19 GMT 10
Here is a thought. Pooling our resources toward entering a member for Targa 2008. It ain't cheap and requires a dedicated support team. There has to be a couple of members who have competitive cars and skills. I'll happily throw in some $$$ and effort. You got a lazy $15k?
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Post by wombatracing on Dec 13, 2006 21:47:53 GMT 10
What about the Targa Tasmania Rookie Rallye. Entry fee $1950.
This competition is reserved for competitors who have not previously participated in the Event. The Rookie Rallye will be conducted in accordance with separate Supplementary Regulations, subject to CAMS approval.
Have you always wanted to compete in Targa Tasmania but haven’t been able to find the time? Has stretching the fun budget this far been virtually impossible? Bid farewell to limitation and in 2007 enter the inaugural Targa Tasmania Rookie Rallye. This is a shorter course competition where you can compete against other Targa Tasmania first-timers for a price that your bank manager will love you for. Held in conjunction with Australia’s ‘Ultimate Tarmac Rally’ the Targa Tasmania 2007 Rookie Rallye is a separate, shorter event and only first-time Targa Tasmania drivers are eligible* to enter. The Targa Tasmania 2007 Rookie Rallye will be held over the 17 stages that make up the George Town Prologue, Day One & Day Two of Targa Tasmania competition. Try out your driving style on a collection of Targa Tasmania’s signature closed-road competition stages including the European rivalling East Coast Passes. Experience the newest stage on the event’s Northern leg; Beaconsfield, the testing 16 kilometre Devonport stage and the world-renowned, 14 kilometre-long The Sideling stage which is as stunning as it is challenging.
You will finish your Targa Tasmania adventure in Hobart with Australia’s first tarmac rally night stage, which in 2007 will be held in the beautiful surrounds of Hobart’s Royal Botanical Gardens. Then make your way to Wrest Point, the host of your Gala Podium Finish and celebrate into the night. Unlike other shorter events you will not have to beat professional drivers like Jim Richards to stand on the podium, rather you will vie with drivers on a similar level for this Targa Tasmania honour. The Outright winners in both competitions (Classic & Modern) will receive a free full entry into Targa Tasmania 2008, valued at up to $6,500.
The entry fee for this once in a lifetime experience is just $1,950 inc GST. (Includes Targa Tasmania function tickets and event merchandise.) Be quick to secure your place in this spectacular limited section of Targa Tasmania.
Maybe this would be something we could do. we could even raise funds by hitting up local businesses for sponsorship.
I stole all this info off the Targa site.
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Post by datsunlimited on Dec 13, 2006 22:03:28 GMT 10
sounds tops but what sort of regs are there ie roll cage or just like club level?
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Post by tom210 on Dec 14, 2006 0:24:25 GMT 10
hell yes.. i'd do anything to go back.. i think i have what they call the "Targa Bug" :S screw the NDSOC targa tour
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Post by ricecutter on Dec 14, 2006 8:01:18 GMT 10
Much that I would love to see your 1600 in Targa Deane. it wouldn't pass the regs. ;D
Noone has a lazy $15k or we wouldn't be driving Datto's!
However as there appears to be some alternative and some interest, there are ways to an end.
As cohesive unit I can't see why we can't come up with a viable package as long as it isn't attempted in a rush.
Open a Targa bank account and start fundraising!
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Post by scando on Dec 14, 2006 12:29:39 GMT 10
I'd love to have a crack at it someday but for some reason I don't think my car would comply That rookie event would be a good thing to do for anybody who had an eligible car but it's still more money than most people can afford by the time you add up all the expenses. The entry fee is only ever a small portion of the cost of a motorsport event. and yes I would still be driving a datto if I had $15K ricecutter. It'd be a very very fast Datsun though
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Post by tom210 on Dec 14, 2006 13:19:25 GMT 10
too true scando, thats the entry fee but tyres, fuel, accomodation, food, it all adds up..
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Post by datsunlimited on Dec 14, 2006 14:57:02 GMT 10
is bluerat having a go?
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Post by scando on Dec 14, 2006 18:48:21 GMT 10
I dont think Bluerats car would be eligible with the L20 either would it Bluerat? Targa is very strickt!
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Post by ricecutter on Dec 15, 2006 3:32:26 GMT 10
The Datto that won the classic class 2002 (I think) ended up being disqualified, they were using a L18(??) 1600 sss. The suspension is fairly unregulated and so are the brakes, the difficulty with being competitive with a 510 is the engine Logistically accomodation can be sorted 'in club'. Fuel wise fortunately Datto's are reasonable, only one set of tyres are allowed. Yep, it ain't straight forward but nothing ever is! I admit my ignorance when it comes to auto racing, however I'm happy to add to my 5c to get the opportunity to see one of us in there.
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Post by bluerat on Dec 15, 2006 9:50:03 GMT 10
Rally Tas might be the way to go?? $2500(?) entry, cheaper licence, Decent rules, and the fastest car wins, not the least modified. A 1600 would be fun, but to be competive you would need a good 240/260Z. 250-300hp and 900kg would put you in the ball park! I know where 2 such cars are sitting in sheds!
In Targa, you could run a tough L18 in your 1600, but you would be handicapped out of the results. The 1600 that was disqualified was pinged for having exterinally ajustable shocks and 240K struts, which are O.K but he was competing in the standard class, where they are not allowed. He came back the next year and won it!! and the year after Paul Stokell in the same car was Minutes ahead, but broke a rocker, from reving it to 9000rpm. Must of been tough on him getting into the Lambo the year after!
Dont forget your $620 licence, driving suit, FAI seats, harnesses and helmet.
I'm already booked for '08,but could help with pace noting, accomdation, workshop and spares.
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Post by scando on Dec 15, 2006 12:12:55 GMT 10
Have they tightened the rules on Rally Tas now Bluerat? I know it used to pretty open slather. Didn't mozza win it one year in his turbo gemini and then get disqualified for doing celebratory donuts? I remember Simsy saying he used to run pretty strong in a turbo Escort too? So could you run a Z/K/Skyline with a 3.1 stroker or a 200B/Bluebird with a 2.4 stroker?
Aren't some of the 510's that run strong in targa H510's which came out with L18's in other countries?
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Post by bluerat on Dec 15, 2006 13:45:24 GMT 10
Yes, they changed a few years ago , Rally Tas basically run's, for historic's, under PRC rules, ie you must run the original block and head, but cranks, induction etc are free, so all of the above are o.k. There is even an L18, stroked to 2.4 with a plate between the head and the block, here in Tassie running in a 1600. It's free as long as you dont go over 6litres. As for Mozza....Naaaa he didn't win it, 5th I think, and as for the donut's, that might of been another event. I did the last finish control at that event and I'll tell you a great story one day about Mozza and a GT3 Porsche. Sim's Escort's was THE gear, a truly fantastic race car...typical understated Steve "Yeah it was O.K".
As for the 1600's, I alway thought the SSS was an L18....That's what it say's in the Homologation papers. I get confused here, but if they run it, it must be!
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Post by ricecutter on Dec 15, 2006 19:14:35 GMT 10
Ok, seems there IS some possibilities of both events, cars and experience. Most of all enthusiasm! Has anyone tried passing a can around at motorsport events for donations? Having a few parties with a small cover charge. A club day washing windows at traffic lights. Yep folks its time for the ugly part to consider fund raising And I'm sure the less socially adept are skilled researchers! ;D
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Post by theonlydat on Dec 15, 2006 19:46:30 GMT 10
what an awesome idea!! As a uni student I have absolutely nothing financially so really can't contribute much that way... BUT.. If a 1600 is underpowered in standard class, perhaps something like a 200Bsss could be the go? still has all IRS in the rear end, handle like a dream and with an L20 standard, it could be stroked out to 2.4 very easily for lots of power... I have such a bus sitting in my back yard. Of course it would need some work, as would any entrant we decided to build for targa, but I'd be willing to donate it to the cause... I'd rather give it away to a team targa entry than watch it rot away in my back yard because I don't have the time or money to run it.... Anyway it already has the completely worked L20 engine (2.2) recently rebuilt head, crazy cam, big valves + ports, twin 45mm dellortoes, 4-2-1 extractors, lightened flywheel, bored to 2.2L... anyway its just something to think about and could be an idea if there's no better car options...
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Post by datsunlimited on Dec 15, 2006 20:09:05 GMT 10
200b sounds good wanna part with??
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Post by bluerat on Dec 16, 2006 13:50:14 GMT 10
BMS510 is our man!!, He's got the legal car, the fancy driving dud's, attractive and media savie navigator, has done every State rally round for the last 5(?) years,an off the show driving style.We would just need 6 tyres, some spring's and some goats head race pad's, easy.
Trust me, people would come from every where to see this guy in Targa or Rally Tas!!!
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Post by datsunlimited on Dec 16, 2006 14:18:00 GMT 10
here here he is impressive, can i be strapped in the back please hehe would be a lovly ride
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Post by ricecutter on Dec 18, 2006 4:06:24 GMT 10
200b sounds good wanna part with?? This thread is to encourage community, promote cooperation and collectively acheive ends which are beyond most individuals, Dattas. Your comment is selfish and unhelpfull Your offer of a donor car is generous and helpfull, theonlydat. Considering some of the info above has potential. Thanks
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